On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Aldo Foot <lunixer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Is rather amusing how this "No root login" thing evolved to just a bad disc. > I apologize for not having had the patience to do a basic media check. Hopefully Gene made the same mistake as Gene is the only other person in this thread that confirmed this firstboot behavior. I wonder how many other people did what you did, and then assumed that Fedora was broken and just moved on? > > Thanks for your patience Jeff and everyone. Doing the diagnose was worthwhile, as it illustrates how bad media can affect an the experience of the resulting install, even if the install completes without error. I'm going to use you as an example for testing media for probably 2 or 3 releases. Even if you got the python problem fixed.. there could be many other packages. Now there might be something that can be done to verify that the rpmdb is self-consistent after the install is completed to catch the symptom you ran into, but its not clear its worth implementing. A fresh install should have a self-consistent rpmdb dependency map. If python were installed, and you were having other weird issues I would have had you install yum-utils package and then do package-cleanup --problems which would report a list of dep issues in your rpmdb. That would have given us a much more comprehensive picture of how deeply your install was affected by the bad media. But we didn't even get that far..because that would require yum..which requires python. I might start doing that for myself as part of fresh install from media testing. But that would not apply to upgrades done with the installer, as upgrades are specifically allowed to break dep chains during the install to accommodate 3rd party packages. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines