Re: F8(1) vs multimedia production(0)

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On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote:
> >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:03 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote:
> >> >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 05:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> >> >> [...]
> >> >>
> >> >> >This is the same stuff/error that kills vlc from building when
> >> >> > compiling from source.  It asked for ffmpeg, I got that and installed
> >> >> > it, it then complains about ffmeg-devel and I get it and install it
> >> >> > and it still complains about not having it.   I know I can get vlc
> >> >> > from livna and I have done that, but I wanted to build it from source
> >> >> > so I can easily update, but it does not work :(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Try to install it via yum.  Enable livna or freshrpms and install it
> >> >> > from there.  I guess it might be the best way?
> >> >>
> >> >> Someone said livna was up to kino-1.3.0, but all I can see is 1.2.0,
> >> >> and it insults our intelligence by needing that worthless POS
> >> >> pulseaudio.
> >> >>
> >> >> Put me on a list so you can let me know when pulseaudio works.  Or if
> >> >> it now works in some private lab setting, how to make it work on an F8
> >> >> x86 system. I nuked that with extreme prejudice when I installed F8,
> >> >> and haven't had a lick of trouble with my audio since.  AFAIC its just
> >> >> another aggravation foisted off on us to remind us this is a "bleeding
> >> >> edge" distro and that we should not ever expect it to "just work".
> >> >
> >> >----
> >> >I think that you completely misunderstand the point of pulseaudio but
> >> >that is your prerogative but it's unfair for you to spread the FUD
> >> >
> >> >I'm sure it will come as a shock to you to find that pulseaudio is also
> >> >included in Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> I'm aware of that, also aware that they did like we did, nuked it so they
> >> can have sound more complex than the pc's beeper.
> >>
> >> When I last installed from the December respin, it still did not work, and
> >> that was what, the 2nd or 3rd respin?  Seems to me if it was going to
> >> work, it should have worked for >90% of the people by then.
> >>
> >> Bare in mind I have two sound systems in this machine, I use the
> >> motherboards AC97 chipset for skype and friends, and an Audigy 2 (the good
> >> one) for everything else.  If pulseaudio cannot be respectful of the
> >> settings in my /etc/modprobe.conf that achieve that, then it is of no use
> >> to me.
> >>
> >> >From an lspci:
> >>
> >> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio
> >> Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
> >> 01:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
> >> Audio Decoder (rev 05)
> >> 01:07.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio
> >> Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
> >> 01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
> >>
> >> All of which I expect to work, and which do so now with as much pulseaudio
> >> removed as can be without nuking the whole system.
> >>
> >> If however, it is now working for others, please share with me what it
> >> took to make it work, preferably for everyone.  Or better yet cuz the list
> >> will be quieter, point me to a how to URL.
> >
> >----
> >pulseaudio is userland and since you run GUI as root, it's meaningless
> >to you anyway...that's what I meant by stating that you don't understand
> >it's use/purpose.
> 
> So far Craig, no one has has offered a clear, lucid explanation of how it (is 
> supposed to) works.  It's just like alsa, a big secret, and devoid even of a 
> means to re-init it other than rebooting.  Where is the 'service alsa 
> restart'?  This is NOT the foss way.
----
sysV services were never intended to launch processes that only run in
user space.

I suppose you could do a 'man pulseaudio' or just blindly figure out
that a SIGHUP will restart a process (even alsa).

www.pulseaudio.org

Craig

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