On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 15:12 +0000, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:41:29 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 16:28 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Beartooth writes: > >> > >> > Consequence : those of us with F9 but no GUI are, apparently, up > >> > the creek. We can't get X to work, and we can't downgrade back to F8. > >> > >> You can never downgrade to an earlier release. That has never been the > >> case, and will never be the case, at least not until rpm is replaced by > >> something else. > >> > >> You are at Nvidia's mercy, to release a driver that's compatible with > >> F9. Perhaps it's now clear why non-free binary blobs are a bad idea. > > > > If the nv driver also doesn't work (I didn't see the beginning of this > > thread, but Beartooth does say above "F9 but no GUI"), then he's also at > > the mercy of the open-source kernel driver writers. They have not > > necessarily been any faster than nVidia at fixing broken drivers or > > supporting new cards. > > > > Beartooth: Have you tried the vesa driver? It worked with my nVidia > > laptop card when nothing else would (when F8 was released), except that > > it wouldn't turn off the backlight. I haven't seen any progress on that > > bug (#351661) since I filed it last October. > > Vesa driver? I've seen the word during boot-ups on at least one > machine; but since it means nothing to me, I don't even recall which > machine. I'll be glad to try that or anything else I can; how do I do it? I believe you can do this: When you see the GRUB spash screen on boot, press a key. Select the top kernel line of the options offered and type 'e', select the kernel line and type 'e'. Append 'video=vesa' at the end of the line. Type [Enter], type 'b'. Then X should detect your video card as vesa, which is the most generic sort of interface. > > Please, everyone, remember also that it may well be the brand-new > monitor, which almost certainly did not yet exist when any of my machines > were assembled, much less when the components in them were manufactured. > I had been running an almost square LCD (19" I think; maybe more), and > one morning it had decided it was a doornail. > > In fact, oddly enough, the machine I had feared might not be able > to handle this monitor (and was prepared to sacrifice, since square > monitors seem to be disappearing quickly from electronic fashion) is > doing just fine -- with a 1280x1024 setting and a stretched display, but > very usably; it's the newest one, whose compatibility I took for granted, > that can't seem to run X. > > Also, please remember that it was F9 itself that told me the > "unhandled exception" which aborted several installs was most probably a > bug in Anaconda. > > > So at least three hypothetical possibilities are tenable at this > point, even plausible, afaik; I'll be glad to try anything against any of > them, and report results. If the machine boots, you can boot in runlevel 3 (edit the kernel line in GRUB as above, but instead of "video=vesa" add "3". Then you'll get a virtual console to log into. Then (as root) run system-config-display --reconfig and see if that helps. > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list