On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:41:29 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 16:28 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Beartooth writes: >> >> > Consequence : those of us with F9 but no GUI are, apparently, up >> > the creek. We can't get X to work, and we can't downgrade back to F8. >> >> You can never downgrade to an earlier release. That has never been the >> case, and will never be the case, at least not until rpm is replaced by >> something else. >> >> You are at Nvidia's mercy, to release a driver that's compatible with >> F9. Perhaps it's now clear why non-free binary blobs are a bad idea. > > If the nv driver also doesn't work (I didn't see the beginning of this > thread, but Beartooth does say above "F9 but no GUI"), then he's also at > the mercy of the open-source kernel driver writers. They have not > necessarily been any faster than nVidia at fixing broken drivers or > supporting new cards. > > Beartooth: Have you tried the vesa driver? It worked with my nVidia > laptop card when nothing else would (when F8 was released), except that > it wouldn't turn off the backlight. I haven't seen any progress on that > bug (#351661) since I filed it last October. Vesa driver? I've seen the word during boot-ups on at least one machine; but since it means nothing to me, I don't even recall which machine. I'll be glad to try that or anything else I can; how do I do it? Please, everyone, remember also that it may well be the brand-new monitor, which almost certainly did not yet exist when any of my machines were assembled, much less when the components in them were manufactured. I had been running an almost square LCD (19" I think; maybe more), and one morning it had decided it was a doornail. In fact, oddly enough, the machine I had feared might not be able to handle this monitor (and was prepared to sacrifice, since square monitors seem to be disappearing quickly from electronic fashion) is doing just fine -- with a 1280x1024 setting and a stretched display, but very usably; it's the newest one, whose compatibility I took for granted, that can't seem to run X. Also, please remember that it was F9 itself that told me the "unhandled exception" which aborted several installs was most probably a bug in Anaconda. So at least three hypothetical possibilities are tenable at this point, even plausible, afaik; I'll be glad to try anything against any of them, and report results. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2.0.3, Epiphany 2.20, Opera 9.27, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know little (precious little!) of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list