On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 08:30 -0400, tom wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:18 +0930, Tim wrote: > >> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 18:39 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >>> Right now I'm going to have rant: > <<snip rant and part of responses>> > > > > Ok, (we're going off the point a little here) so you're about tell a > > manufacturer who is willing to cooperate with OSS and provide drivers to > > shove it where the sun don't shine because of a system which for all > > purposes that I can see here does squat? > > > > We want manufacturers to cooperate to get people away from the shit made > > by M$ which causes us a lot of grief by being zombified and attacking > > linux systems, choking networks and systems, etc. Making life difficult > > for them is not a good thing... > > Accepting software (or hardware for that matter) which does not meet > standards with respect to security and function is also not a good thing. > Unfortunately today it appears that customer pain is the only leverage > available for to enforce those standards. > > I've got my own beefs with SELinux, mostly because I have yet to wrap my > head around trouble shooting the system. Amen. I know I'll have to learn it, I've just put it off until I've shaken out everything else! <g> Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================
