On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 21:19 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Ok, (we're going off the point a little here) so you're about tell a > manufacturer who is willing to cooperate with OSS and provide drivers > to shove it where the sun don't shine because of a system which for > all purposes that I can see here does squat? > > We want manufacturers to cooperate to get people away from the shit > made by M$ which causes us a lot of grief by being zombified and > attacking linux systems, choking networks and systems, etc. Making > life difficult for them is not a good thing... That's exactly the sort of thing that SELinux is aimed against. You gave a rant, you're getting a strong response about that back. You can rant, or you can do something more useful. For what it's worth, SELinux isn't something peculiar to Fedora. There's quite a few distributions that use it, you and they will have to get used to it. Just the same as manufacturers had to get used to firewalls, not telling users to turn off their anti-virus, not telling users to run as admin, expecting drivers written badly for Win2000 to be acceptable for XP, etc., etc. Now that's out of the way, consider the other things I mentioned (error reports, information about what you've actually done), and reply to that message, with useful information for diagnosis. The guy who takes care of CUPS is on this list, and will be helpful if you are. However, if the manufacturer is just putting out crap, and is only interested in putting out crap, the next move will be yours alone. There are other systems which appear to "just work," and are also just full of problems. If you want quality (presuming this is why you're not using Windows) fight for it, don't just try for the easiest way out. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.
