<20080410002853.A6D04619641@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> の、 」 E-mail has not been needed any longer. "fedora-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 68" において、 "fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx"さんは書きました： > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Punch cards (Aaron Konstam) > 2. Re: OT: Programming in C (Da Rock) > 3. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Patrick O'Callaghan) > 4. Re: permanently enable/disable yum repositories (Aaron Konstam) > 5. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Les) > 6. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Da Rock) > 7. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Da Rock) > 8. search eengine for archives of this list (Y Uanlux) > 9. Re: search eengine for archives of this list (Wink Saville) > 10. Re: Hardware reticensy (Simon Slater) > 11. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Pedro Freire) > 12. Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in > Fedora 9 (Edwin Tan) > 13. Re: A silent UPS (Mike D) > 14. Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in > Fedora 9 (Patrick O'Callaghan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:13:27 -0500 > From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Punch cards > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207782807.3067.3.camel@cyrus> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 00:23 +0930, Tim wrote: > > > > The changeover's been pushed back, yet again, to 2013. There's > > experiments all over the place. Here, in Adelaide, the VHF stations > > have been broadcasting for years beyond their license range, using > > masses of power (they can be received across the gulf, but they're not > > meant to, they're licensed for Adelaide and suburbs). All of us have > > been taking advantage of that, and getting away with mediocre antenna > > systems because there's such a high level of RF in the air to pick up. > > SBS on UHF 28 put out the most power of the lot, ostensibly because > > when > > they started many had sets with bad UHF tuners and inadequate > > antennas, > > so they tried to make it easy. > Well Tim you may be pushing your luck on being right. I have heard > noting about pushing the digital switch to 2013. As far as I know in the > US it is still 2009. Do you have a reference for this assertion you are > making. > -- > ======================================================================= > A shapely CATHOLIC SCHOOLGIRL is FIDGETING inside my costume.. > ======================================================================= > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:12:15 +1000 > From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: OT: Programming in C > To: Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora > <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <1207782735.16346.181.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:49 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 09:39 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > > >> max bianco wrote: > > >>> I want to learn C and I know there are quite a few programmers on this > > >>> list. I am looking for a couple of good books on learning C. I am not > > >>> exactly a beginner but I am no expert and i would like to start going > > >>> over everything from scratch. So if I could get some referrals to a > > >>> couple of books I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking for a good > > >>> thorough beginners guide to C and also something for the intermediate > > >>> programmer as I expect to get through the former in fairly short > > >>> order. I ultimately will be directing my efforts at kernel hacking. As > > >>> always , any advice and or opinion is gratefully received. > > >>> > > >>> Max > > >>> > > >> I took a C course ages ago and I am trying to refresh my memory. I have > > >> found many tutorials on C on the web. I am going through some of them > > >> now. I have already found a few that have errors in their examples or > > >> examples that are incomplete. Also, when searching, many of the results > > >> would return C++ links instead of C links. > > >> > > > > > > Could you post some of those web tutorials? > > > > I am no expert on the quality of these sites. I am just starting to go > > through them. I have come across a few that were restricted to their > > local country or students. (IP issues) These are in no particular order. > > > > This is the one I am looking at now and was open. Lucky to be first I > > guess. > > http://users.bestweb.net/~ctips/ > > > > This one says Lesson 1: The basics of C++ but in the intro paragraph > > actually says this if for C. > > > > http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/c/lesson1.html > > > > http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/ > > http://www.c-faq.com/ > > http://www.linfo.org/create_c1.html > > http://www.deitel.com/ResourceCenters/Programming/C/CTutorialsandWebcasts/ tabid/208/Default.aspx > > > > Then there is Googles Code search. > > http://www.google.com/codesearch > > > > > >> As I am using Linux and gcc, I want to focus on using these tools. I > > >> had Turbo C but it was a Windows 3.1 version. > > >> > > >> I need to learn C for working with microcontrollers for a few projects > > >> that I that I am now working on. > > >> > > >> Now to dig through my boxes of books and find my C books, if I still > > >> have them. > > >> > > >> Also, if you are going to use gcc, then look at the man pages for > > >> compiler flags and linking libraries. I came across this yesterday when > > >> I was looking for a lint program. Also you and type in man 3 {function } > > >> to get more information on that function. > > >> > > >> man 3 cos > > >> > > > > > > Thats good to know. I'm starting to get into this myself (when I can > > > scratch up some time... :) ), so it'll give me soemwhere to look. > > > Someone mentioned it elsewhere, but I didn't realise it was that easy, > > > or the man category to look for. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Neither did I. Sure saves looking through books to find the information. > > > > Hope this helps. > > -- > > Indeed- thanks. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:54:16 -0430 > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207783456.23643.17.camel@bree> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2 > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be > > released I will wait and try F9. > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I > > really appreciate some sign of life > > Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no > messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to > January). > > poc > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:26:05 -0500 > From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: permanently enable/disable yum repositories > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207783565.3067.8.camel@cyrus> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:45 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:24:34 +0200 > > Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I know that. I'm looking for a tool that does that if it exists. > > > > What about sed? > I suspect a disablerepo line could be put in /etc/yu.conf > -- > ======================================================================= > I hear the sound that the machines make, and feel my heart break, just > for a moment. > ======================================================================= > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:30:34 -0700 > From: Les <hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207783834.17334.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2 > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be > > released I will wait and try F9. > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I > > really appreciate some sign of life > > Thank you so much, Vinny > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Hi, Vinny, > None of us is paid to do this. We respond to those questions we know > how to answer. Sometimes what is asked is somewhat unique to a person's > setup, in which case no response is typical. Sometimes the answer is > already resident in the archives, and we expect you to search them > first. But if you search the archives first and try the solution(s) > there, and still do not have success, then compose your question such > that you tell what steps you have already taken. > > Regards, > Les H > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:41:31 +1000 > From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <1207784491.16346.186.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2 > > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the > > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be > > > released I will wait and try F9. > > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a > > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have > > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I > > > really appreciate some sign of life > > > > Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no > > messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to > > January). > > I haven't noticed anything either, and I KNOW I would have seen this one > if it came up- I have had some trouble installing on my laptop as well. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:42:12 +1000 > From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <1207784532.16346.188.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2 > > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the > > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be > > > released I will wait and try F9. > > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a > > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have > > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I > > > really appreciate some sign of life > > > > Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no > > messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to > > January). > > I haven't noticed anything either, and I KNOW I would have seen this one > if it came up- I have had some trouble installing on my laptop as well. > > That said, why not repost the original question? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:47:57 +1000 > From: "Y Uanlux" <yuanlux@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: search eengine for archives of this list > To: Fedora-list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <f94605970804091647v3fb3b81dv98b4b9043ddcfd12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi > The volume of this list is BIG. does anyone set up a search engine or has > search tips from google? > > Thank > Y > the archives > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080410/ f76c67a2/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:05:57 -0700 > From: Wink Saville <wink@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: search eengine for archives of this list > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <47FD59E5.7010705@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Y Uanlux wrote: > > Hi > > The volume of this list is BIG. does anyone set up a search engine or > > has search tips from google? > > > > Thank > > Y > > the archives > I was wondering the same thing and did find: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#searchit > > But, I think having a specific database/search engine might be nice. > > Wink Saville > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:00:27 +1000 > From: Simon Slater <pyevet@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Hardware reticensy > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207782027.3936.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 20:36 +0200, SzXra GyXrgy wrote: > > community, > > I submit to you my plain request as wether exchanging my video card > > would fix the fault. My concern issue looks like > > as follows: > > Not knowing wether anybody among you had noticed yet the phenomenon when > > ancient hardware and a relative new system clach ? > > I have a P III. PC desktop with FC4 running on it for a year or so.That > > configuration has been me working faultless till now. > > Recently I sensed and set about a release renewal and installed RC6 > > release. I did not dare try a more andvanced distro fearing a clash > > betveen my P III PC and the newest (Fedora8). > > Although in relevant README from Fedora 6 release I did not noticed > > any deficiency regarding the requirement of OS's release. > > I have abundantly of CPU 1.3 Gb and 500 SDRAM. I dare say to add it > > more- all my hardware ingredient were assembled of brand new qualities. > > though till now the whole is becoming a little old, I must admit. But > > not wanting to buy a new PC for the time being. > > In spite of all this favourable conditions and to my sorry > > the (Gnome ) desktop environment of my new installation shows up odd > > behaviour. All destop images are miniaturized and what is more the > > configuration utilities are blocked to work. I did not succeded > > configure neither PPP dial-up nor CUPS for printer. The GUI's > > interactive panels keep itself each time faint or eclipsed. This > > suggests me there may be somewehre a clash between GUI of Fedora newer > > release and my disposable Motherboard (Soltek with Via chipset) or VGA > > (Nvidia 17 Geforce4MX 4000). > > Don't you think a better VGA might fix this anomaly instead of buying an > > up to date PC ? > > Any suggestion may be highly appreciated with best regards > > Gy Szara > > > Hi Gy, > Just to throw in my situation rather than advice, I have FC6 running > fine on 2 PII's, one 233MHz 512MbRAM and the other 400MHz with 256 > MbRAM. They are not fast, but work fine. One of these days when there > is plenty of spare time, I'll try F8 on them to see what happens. I'll > leave it to others more experienced to comment on the video situation. > > -- > Regards > Simon > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:19:46 +0100 > From: Pedro Freire <pmr.freire@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207783187.4020.1.camel@pmf-fc8> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > first message I see. What was your questions ? > > I have Fedora 8 installed on a laptop (fujitsu-siemens Lifebook). > Installed with no problem, no extra drivers were needed. Right out of > the box ... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Onelli <vonelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora-list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:02:40 -0400 > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2 > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be released > I will wait and try F9. > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I > really appreciate some sign of life > Thank you so much, Vinny > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080410/ 39cc3a55/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:19:40 +0800 > From: "Edwin Tan" <edwintan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in > Fedora 9 > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <9B357AF588C5411AB66B98CA6C3B8349@EDWINTAN> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hi all, > Since Fedora 9 is coming out soon next month. I would like to know > the drivers support for the WiFi adapters, will Fedora include the > drivers in their OS or rely on the 3rd party contributors? By the way, > found the .run installer from ATI is pretty neat. Will all the drivers > come this way? > > thanks > > regards, > Edwin Tan, > Technical Support Manager > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080410/ f50d8093/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:26:00 +1200 > From: "Mike D" <42flicks@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: A silent UPS > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <2b54d4370804091726k6149b730mb89c3e424732e6af@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:00 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > > > Konstantin Svist wrote: > > > > Da Rock wrote: > > > >> This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute > > the > > > >> voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- > > I > > > >> need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > > > >> little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while > > she's > > > >> in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't > > want > > > >> to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > > > >> shrieks when I unplug the power... > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > They're usually called "laptops" :-) > > > > > > > > Some UPS models have a mute button, but you need to press it after you > > > > hear the alarm. > > > > Alternative is to open one up and disconnect the speaker wires. > > > > Best, of course, is to just get a cheap laptop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will second the comment on a laptop. You can get a decent laptop for > > > around the same price as all the hardware and software to mount a > > > computer, ups, speakers... > > > > > > The added benefit is total mobility. Now you can take the full setup in > > > a vehicle if you have to transport her to a different location. Or if > > > the need arises, a hospital (with added security). > > > > Yeah, actually the Eee PC from Asus would have been the best, BUT (big > > but) the unit didn't fit the requirement I needed unless the screen > > folded back 180 degrees. And I got the PC for around $350 anyway- hard > > to beat with a laptop. Mind you the whole setup will cost the same as a > > laptop once I'm done - PC, UPS, and a 7" touch screen monitor... Can't > > get that in a laptop anywhere. > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > What about the Asus with an external monitor attached? I though they > supported that? Would be a tidier solution :). > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080410/ 0a3320f7/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:58:19 -0430 > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in > Fedora 9 > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1207787300.23643.21.camel@bree> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 08:19 +0800, Edwin Tan wrote: > > hi all, > > Since Fedora 9 is coming out soon next month. I would like to > > know > > the drivers support for the WiFi adapters, will Fedora include > > the > > drivers in their OS or rely on the 3rd party contributors? By > > the way, > > found the .run installer from ATI is pretty neat. Will all the > > drivers > > come this way? > > Why are you replying to your own message if you're not going to add > anything? Sending the same question twice within a few hours is not > going to win you any friends. > > If by any chance you aren't sure if your question has reached the list, > you can always check the archives at > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list before repeating it. > > poc > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 68 > ******************************************* > ************************************************* ＮＴＴコムウェア北海道株式会社 BS開発部 第1担当 菅野 光彦(kanno.mitsuhiko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) TEL:(#-112-8910) 外線TEL：011-281-6240 〒060-0042 札幌市中央区大通西７丁目 ＮＴＴコムウェア札幌ビル９Ｆ ************************************************
