Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 23:10 -0400, max wrote:
Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:03 -0400, max wrote:
Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:59 -0400, max bianco wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:28 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote:
The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of
some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of
use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated
that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running
UNIX not DEC's VMS OS.
I've heard similar bulldust about using Linux being the cause of some
problem that it couldn't possibly be. It makes you wonder whether these
people believe their own rubbish, are incompetent, or think that you're
stupid.
Or just want to get out of warranty... there was an article (Slashdot IIRC)
about HP voiding warranty on laptops converted to Linux, even though they
sell similar models with Linux installed. Never checked it out, don't care,
but I assume it's true.
I have heard similar stories. Recently I bought my better half a new
laptop. I went around to the usual stores and point blank told them
that Windows would last long enough for one boot just to make sure the
thing was working before I wiped the harddrive and flashed the bios.
They told me they wouldn't honor any warranty on the hardware if the
original OS was not there. Needless to say they didn't get the sale. I
called Dell and told them that since their Linux offerings were so
weak I was going to get an XP laptop and wipe it off to install Linux.
They told me they would honor the hardware warranty regardless of the
OS. Sold. Now she's happy and so am I.
Is there any success in getting Dell to sell hardware without the OS?
They don't sell the linux systems anywhere but the US.
They wouldn't sell me one with no OS but they are willing to support the
hardware which in my book is just as good and no less than they should
do anyway.
I think in the future they may offer blank hardware but they'd find
someway to keep charging just as much so it really doesn't matter. I'd
like to see Dell offer RedHat on a desktop , there are plenty of small
businesses that would quickly jump on to save a few bucks, even with the
cost of support(which they wouldn't need for more than a year or two)
they'd save big on applications, the day is coming I think but not soon
enough for my taste.
Max
Indeed. Considering now M$ is no longer offering OEM which means costs
will go up...
On the blank hardware front- anyone know where to get notebook mb's? I
can find screens and chassis, but no mb. I asked AMD but they avoided
the question, and I don't really want intel. But at this point I'm
beyond caring.
As far as I know there isn't a generic laptop. All of them are
proprietary in one way or another, doesn't mean you can't find the
boards but good luck getting them to fit into anything but the original
manufacturer's case.
You used to be able to get them- I knew a computer tech who used to
build them himself. Can't find them now, though...
I have been able to find boards but they are usually very expensive. No
standard form factor so they can charge whatever they like.
Max
