On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:03 -0400, max wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:59 -0400, max bianco wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> Tim wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:28 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of > >>>>> some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of > >>>>> use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated > >>>>> that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running > >>>>> UNIX not DEC's VMS OS. > >>>>> > >>>> I've heard similar bulldust about using Linux being the cause of some > >>>> problem that it couldn't possibly be. It makes you wonder whether these > >>>> people believe their own rubbish, are incompetent, or think that you're > >>>> stupid. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Or just want to get out of warranty... there was an article (Slashdot IIRC) > >>> about HP voiding warranty on laptops converted to Linux, even though they > >>> sell similar models with Linux installed. Never checked it out, don't care, > >>> but I assume it's true. > >>> > >> I have heard similar stories. Recently I bought my better half a new > >> laptop. I went around to the usual stores and point blank told them > >> that Windows would last long enough for one boot just to make sure the > >> thing was working before I wiped the harddrive and flashed the bios. > >> They told me they wouldn't honor any warranty on the hardware if the > >> original OS was not there. Needless to say they didn't get the sale. I > >> called Dell and told them that since their Linux offerings were so > >> weak I was going to get an XP laptop and wipe it off to install Linux. > >> They told me they would honor the hardware warranty regardless of the > >> OS. Sold. Now she's happy and so am I. > > > > Is there any success in getting Dell to sell hardware without the OS? > > They don't sell the linux systems anywhere but the US. > > > > They wouldn't sell me one with no OS but they are willing to support the > hardware which in my book is just as good and no less than they should > do anyway. > I think in the future they may offer blank hardware but they'd find > someway to keep charging just as much so it really doesn't matter. I'd > like to see Dell offer RedHat on a desktop , there are plenty of small > businesses that would quickly jump on to save a few bucks, even with the > cost of support(which they wouldn't need for more than a year or two) > they'd save big on applications, the day is coming I think but not soon > enough for my taste. > > Max > Indeed. Considering now M$ is no longer offering OEM which means costs will go up... On the blank hardware front- anyone know where to get notebook mb's? I can find screens and chassis, but no mb. I asked AMD but they avoided the question, and I don't really want intel. But at this point I'm beyond caring. If I can achieve this then I'll support blank hardware- any buyers here?
