<snip> > I do hope I had nothing to do with DEC's demise... I can't say about your incident, but I think I may have a better idea about the demise of DEC. In the early `80s I was responsible for the computing facility of a computer science research institute. Our computers were two DEC Vaxen, an 11/730 :-( and an 11/780. The `780 came equipped with Dec's latest disk and controller system. The controller was a UDA-50 and the disk were like 756 MB (Then quite large) RA series drives. The operating systems we ran were 4.1c BSD then 4.2 BSD. The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running UNIX not DEC's VMS OS. dlg