On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 23:10 -0400, max wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:03 -0400, max wrote: > >> Da Rock wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:59 -0400, max bianco wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> Tim wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:28 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of > >>>>>>> some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of > >>>>>>> use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated > >>>>>>> that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running > >>>>>>> UNIX not DEC's VMS OS. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> I've heard similar bulldust about using Linux being the cause of some > >>>>>> problem that it couldn't possibly be. It makes you wonder whether these > >>>>>> people believe their own rubbish, are incompetent, or think that you're > >>>>>> stupid. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Or just want to get out of warranty... there was an article (Slashdot IIRC) > >>>>> about HP voiding warranty on laptops converted to Linux, even though they > >>>>> sell similar models with Linux installed. Never checked it out, don't care, > >>>>> but I assume it's true. > >>>>> > >>>> I have heard similar stories. Recently I bought my better half a new > >>>> laptop. I went around to the usual stores and point blank told them > >>>> that Windows would last long enough for one boot just to make sure the > >>>> thing was working before I wiped the harddrive and flashed the bios. > >>>> They told me they wouldn't honor any warranty on the hardware if the > >>>> original OS was not there. Needless to say they didn't get the sale. I > >>>> called Dell and told them that since their Linux offerings were so > >>>> weak I was going to get an XP laptop and wipe it off to install Linux. > >>>> They told me they would honor the hardware warranty regardless of the > >>>> OS. Sold. Now she's happy and so am I. > >>> Is there any success in getting Dell to sell hardware without the OS? > >>> They don't sell the linux systems anywhere but the US. > >>> > >> They wouldn't sell me one with no OS but they are willing to support the > >> hardware which in my book is just as good and no less than they should > >> do anyway. > >> I think in the future they may offer blank hardware but they'd find > >> someway to keep charging just as much so it really doesn't matter. I'd > >> like to see Dell offer RedHat on a desktop , there are plenty of small > >> businesses that would quickly jump on to save a few bucks, even with the > >> cost of support(which they wouldn't need for more than a year or two) > >> they'd save big on applications, the day is coming I think but not soon > >> enough for my taste. > >> > >> Max > >> > > > > Indeed. Considering now M$ is no longer offering OEM which means costs > > will go up... > > > > On the blank hardware front- anyone know where to get notebook mb's? I > > can find screens and chassis, but no mb. I asked AMD but they avoided > > the question, and I don't really want intel. But at this point I'm > > beyond caring. > > > As far as I know there isn't a generic laptop. All of them are > proprietary in one way or another, doesn't mean you can't find the > boards but good luck getting them to fit into anything but the original > manufacturer's case. > You used to be able to get them- I knew a computer tech who used to build them himself. Can't find them now, though...
