On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 20:42 -0400, max wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:43 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Tim wrote: > >>> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:28 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote: > >>>> The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of > >>>> some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of > >>>> use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated > >>>> that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running > >>>> UNIX not DEC's VMS OS. > >>> I've heard similar bulldust about using Linux being the cause of some > >>> problem that it couldn't possibly be. It makes you wonder whether these > >>> people believe their own rubbish, are incompetent, or think that you're > >>> stupid. > >>> > >> Or just want to get out of warranty... there was an article (Slashdot > >> IIRC) about HP voiding warranty on laptops converted to Linux, even > >> though they sell similar models with Linux installed. Never checked it > >> out, don't care, but I assume it's true. > > > > No, they don't sell them at all with linux- except maybe on their server > > line. And yes, they refuse to fix them unless Windows is installed. Got > > 2 laptops myself and have this problem everytime I ring up- it wont boot > > at all- must be the wrong OS installed because POST fails... > > > > I can't believe a company like HP would lay that nonsense down as policy. > Absolutely insane. Funny thing is my current workstation was headed for > the trash heap. Supposedly a hardware problem. It would blue screen > within a twenty minutes of getting to the XP desktop. Reinstalling > windows and updating all the drivers didn't work. Gotta be a hardware > problem but lo and behold I loaded F7 , since upgraded to F8, and she's > purring like a kitten ever since, been runnin for months, gotta be a > year or so by now. I fully expect it will live to upgrade to F9 and > probably 10. There have been a couple of other PC's come across my bench > like that too. > > Max > Probably memory or similar. If you start getting issues in Windows soon you'll see probs in *nix. Before the POST issue mine was overheating- must be *nix! They tried to tell me that the bios and drivers had to be updated to fix the problem. Meanwhile the drivers hadn't been updated since well before I installed *nix. I copied the page with all the driver updates plus the install date of my *nix system and took it to Fair Trading. Needless to say I won. Next issue is I bought HP extended warranty - pick and return - and the service agent tells me that unless I box up the unit properly for a courier their not legally responsible! I've told them time and again that once I call and the unit leaves my hands in any way that it no longer is my responsibility- its theirs. But still they get agro if I tell them I can't find a box to put it in. I'd LOVE to see them in court trying to hold that up...