Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 20:42 -0400, max wrote:
Da Rock wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:43 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:28 -0700, David L. Gehrt wrote:
The disk drive were pretty good EXCEPT the spindle bearings were made of
some space age material prone to disintegration after a short period of
use. I knew DEC was going to be in trouble when the repair guy stated
that the problem we had with those bearings was because we were running
UNIX not DEC's VMS OS.
I've heard similar bulldust about using Linux being the cause of some
problem that it couldn't possibly be. It makes you wonder whether these
people believe their own rubbish, are incompetent, or think that you're
stupid.
Or just want to get out of warranty... there was an article (Slashdot
IIRC) about HP voiding warranty on laptops converted to Linux, even
though they sell similar models with Linux installed. Never checked it
out, don't care, but I assume it's true.
No, they don't sell them at all with linux- except maybe on their server
line. And yes, they refuse to fix them unless Windows is installed. Got
2 laptops myself and have this problem everytime I ring up- it wont boot
at all- must be the wrong OS installed because POST fails...
I can't believe a company like HP would lay that nonsense down as policy.
Absolutely insane. Funny thing is my current workstation was headed for
the trash heap. Supposedly a hardware problem. It would blue screen
within a twenty minutes of getting to the XP desktop. Reinstalling
windows and updating all the drivers didn't work. Gotta be a hardware
problem but lo and behold I loaded F7 , since upgraded to F8, and she's
purring like a kitten ever since, been runnin for months, gotta be a
year or so by now. I fully expect it will live to upgrade to F9 and
probably 10. There have been a couple of other PC's come across my bench
like that too.
Max
Probably memory or similar. If you start getting issues in Windows soon
you'll see probs in *nix.
I don't know about that, still going after so many months and I didn't
change any of the hardware. I don't expect it will hold up forever but
by all rights it shouldn't even have worked at all. I've found a few
"dead" PC's that will spring back to life with a shot of Linux. Don't
get me wrong , I 'm not saying its the cure all but it seems that Linux
treats the hardware better than doze does. I 've had people tell me as
much but things like that are hard to prove and I don't think I'd
believe it if I hadn't seen it myself. Anyway its perfectly possible
that it was something else entirely......
Before the POST issue mine was overheating- must be *nix! They tried to
tell me that the bios and drivers had to be updated to fix the problem.
Meanwhile the drivers hadn't been updated since well before I installed
*nix. I copied the page with all the driver updates plus the install
date of my *nix system and took it to Fair Trading. Needless to say I
won.
This kind of ignorance is hard to comprehend but then I have to remind
myself that the majority of people using computers today aren't even
aware that something besides M$ exists. That is hard to believe but its
true. I've had more than one PC "tech" tell me that cleaning up viruses
and spyware is their bread and butter, they won't give it up. Frankly I
think that's disgusting, leeching hard working people just because they
don't know any better. Its the way of the world but you know what? It
will collapse under its own rotten stinking weight eventually. Then
people will be forced to learn and a great many will be forced to hide
once people find out how they've been taken. My father is fond of
telling me, " You can only hide your turds in the snow till spring time."
Max
Next issue is I bought HP extended warranty - pick and return - and the
service agent tells me that unless I box up the unit properly for a
courier their not legally responsible! I've told them time and again
that once I call and the unit leaves my hands in any way that it no
longer is my responsibility- its theirs. But still they get agro if I
tell them I can't find a box to put it in. I'd LOVE to see them in court
trying to hold that up...
