Todd Zullinger wrote: > And if NM works well, as it > does for a larger and larger number of people and network configs all > the time, then they'd have no real need to delve deeper into the why's > and how's of wireless operation. How do you know NM works "for a larger and larger number of people"? [Incidentally, this is not incompatible with "NM does not work for a larger and larger number of people".] In any case, it is always nice to know what is going on. That is one of the attractions of Linux. If you are in love with wizards, why not stick to Windows? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland