On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM, John W. Linville <linville@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 08:03:19PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > On 09/03/2008, Paul Johnson <pauljohn32@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > It appears to me the reasonable thing is to fall back on the ipw3945 > > > driver again, but I can't get ti to compile with 2.6.24. So maybe I > > > should revert to the older kernel, but it is pretty depressing to > > > wrestle with this. Hell, the Intel ipw3945 device must be used fairly > > > widely, and there are about a million Dell users floating about with > > > them. > > Intel doesn't support the ipw3945 driver anymore, and Intel provides > no documentation on their hardware outside of Intel. If iwl3945 > isn't working up to snuff then Intel must bear the brunt of the > responsibility. > > > > > Is there nobody who works on the kernel in Fedora stuck with ipw3945? > > > I can't understand how they keep trotting out iwl3945 and acting as > > > though it will work. > > > > > > > Well, Linville has one, but he's having a hard time to reproduce the > > issues. If you want to read the gory details : > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=397921 > > In fact, I currently have custody of a 2nd ipw3945-equipped laptop. > Both of mine work fine in every environment easily available to me. > This includes open, WEP, and WPA-PSK security. I cannot account for > why some people seem to have zero success while I have few problems, > almost none of which are unique to the Intel drivers. > > I suspect that that something (either the Intel drivers or mac80211 > itself) is sensitive to certain AP configurations, and in some cases > tiny bits of old/bad configuration settings may be hanging around > confusing things. > Yes, that is what I suspect as well. I started this thread trying to ask the question "what old crap do I need to get rid of"? to go from ipw3945 and iwl3945. Aside from completely erasing the root partition, what can I do to be sure I have nuked every bit of ipw3945? I killed the firmware, killed ipw3945d, removed all of the configured files from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. Where does NetworkManager keep its information on networks. I'd like to kill all of that completely. Do you have any luck running the compat-wireless packages? I mean this thing: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download The apparently update this everyday, even though the file name never changes; http://linuxwireless.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2 It is no wonder that we are having inexplicable problems with wireless. If the Fedora kernel folks are grabbing this soup-of-the-day, then a lot of the trouble may start to make sense. Look what I see today with that compat-wireless version of iwl3945. Scanning fails entirely. This happens before or after I'm associated to a wireless network. $ /sbin/iwlist scan lo Interface doesn't support scanning. wmaster0 Interface doesn't support scanning. wlan0 No scan results eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas
