On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 08:03:19PM +0000, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 09/03/2008, Paul Johnson <pauljohn32@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It appears to me the reasonable thing is to fall back on the ipw3945 > > driver again, but I can't get ti to compile with 2.6.24. So maybe I > > should revert to the older kernel, but it is pretty depressing to > > wrestle with this. Hell, the Intel ipw3945 device must be used fairly > > widely, and there are about a million Dell users floating about with > > them. Intel doesn't support the ipw3945 driver anymore, and Intel provides no documentation on their hardware outside of Intel. If iwl3945 isn't working up to snuff then Intel must bear the brunt of the responsibility. > > Is there nobody who works on the kernel in Fedora stuck with ipw3945? > > I can't understand how they keep trotting out iwl3945 and acting as > > though it will work. > > > > Well, Linville has one, but he's having a hard time to reproduce the > issues. If you want to read the gory details : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=397921 In fact, I currently have custody of a 2nd ipw3945-equipped laptop. Both of mine work fine in every environment easily available to me. This includes open, WEP, and WPA-PSK security. I cannot account for why some people seem to have zero success while I have few problems, almost none of which are unique to the Intel drivers. I suspect that that something (either the Intel drivers or mac80211 itself) is sensitive to certain AP configurations, and in some cases tiny bits of old/bad configuration settings may be hanging around confusing things. So (to anyone reading), when opening bugzillas please provide as much detail as possible about your wireless environment. I advise using as close to a default AP configuration as is possible, at least until you have things working. Also, please make as much effort as possible to start from a "clean slate" configuration if at all possible. Also, Intel has been less than fully cooperative with bugs reported in our bugzilla. They usually ask for bugs to be reported in their bughost.org buzilla instead. If you are confident that you have a problem specific to the Intel wireless drivers, then you may want to open a bugzilla their instead. Intel claims to be more responsive to bugs opened there -- YMMV. I assure you that I am well aware when wireless patches get merged upstream and I make great effort to get those patches into Fedora kernels in a timely fashion. Hth! John -- John W. Linville linville@xxxxxxxxxx