On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 17:20 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 17:58 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > On 06/01/2008, Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> Apple, like Microsoft has a support web site and offers direct support > > >> consistent with the fact that they are revenue based and that is the > > >> part of why you use a proprietary OS, for their support. > > > > > > Yeah, right. My father uses some version or another of Windows XP. He > > > had to pay $39 for a full year's support just to email a human that > > > would help him configure his HP printer. That is on top of the $$$ for > > > the OS. Windows (I don't know about Mac) comes with installation > > > support free, and no more. Much like a crack dealer. > > > > > > I just looked, and it seems that the price has since gone up 50%: > > > http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=16&y=16&prid=3219&gprid=37013 > > > > With apple, you pretty much have to buy applecare to even get anyone to > > talk about defective hardware after the ridiculously short 90 day > > warranty or to get any support beyond the free web forum. > > > > But, it isn't so much about the cost as whether the machine is working > > for you or you are working to make the machine do anything. Macs tend > > to "just work". > --- > heck, in this neck of the woods (and I would guess elsewhere too), you > have to purchase an additional $100 Preferred Care card to get Apple to > look at your computer in less than a week. In some circles, that would > be called extortion. The media congratulates Apple's successful business > plan. > > That said, I think that that they are as big if not bigger whores than > Microsoft, but just not as successful at it. Ergo my previous comment. We had 150 faithful Apple ][ users in Houston back when. Apple Core tried to wee-wee on us. Sent lawyers, all kinds of sh*t for just having a user group with Apple in it's name, while refusing to collect dues to forward to Apple Inc. Later every last one of the users fled to XT and a lot of nice used Apple ]['s went to the local elementary schools to play "Math Bomber" on. Back in the early '80s, two grand was large money to sink into a machine with two floppies, to get kicked in the ass. Screw-em, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================