On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 11:52 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > by the way, the above is still not annoyance-free: > > > > OK.... > > > > So, I gather from all of this that the existing documentation, > > links, and whatever doesn't measure up to what you need or expect. > > Would that be a fair summary? > > > > Is the question then, how can documentation be improved for the > > average user? > > all i'm suggesting is that it took an inordinately long time to figure > out what should have been a two-minute exercise. i'm guessing that, > in most cases, readers aren't interested in a long-winded overview of > things -- they just want to know what commands to run to get > something done, which is all i wanted in the first place. > > in short, what people might want is a fedora "cookbook" with tight, > concise recipes that just plain work, out of the box. if they choose > to read up later on the underlying operations, then that's their > choice. A wonderful example of that is http://www.stanton-finley.net/ which is clear, concise and the content works every time and, for the most part, still does. Too bad he went to the Ubuntu scheme of things after FC5. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================