On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:28:51 -0600 Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Unix/Linux definitely does care if > > you're local or remote when assigning console permissions as described above. > > No, fedora, udev, or some recent change cares about this. You missed the "as described above" part of my previous reply. > Traditional > unix would run on boxes with no concept of a local console and never > changed permissions on anything, including the device nodes in /dev > without being explicitly told to do so by someone with appropriate > rights. Perhaps, but feature modernization is one of the reasons why we use modern Linux distributions now instead of AT&T Unix on green screens. It's my understanding that modern Unix derivatives also have a similar capability to distinguish a local console from remote access terminals. It may not work exactly the same way, though; I'm reasonably sure the capability exists but am not familiar with the actual mechanics, as it were. > I understand the problem this tries to solve by guessing that > someone near the attached keyboard might be the owner of the machine, > but it makes the system very single-user-Microsoft-ish in my opinion. It's a feature (see above) that you are free to use or not use as you see fit. It would be quite simple for you to change the rulesets I initially pointed out so they would do nothing at all, and that would emulate the old behaviour that you prefer. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com