On Dec 6, 2007 2:36 PM, Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> OK normal setup would have NetworkManager start at 98 which of course > > >> would be after ntpd (and most every other network service) > > > > > > Seems a rather bad way to organise the starting order, not having a > > > network ready before services that need to use a network. > > > > > I am working on my first cup of coffee, so I may be way off base, > > but isn't NetworkManager designed to manage connections when a user > > logs in? My thinking is the late start is because the programmers > > figured that it would not have anything to do until the user logs > > in, and unlocks the "key vault" so that the wireless encryptions are > > available. In this case, might it work better to use the network > > service instead of NetworkManager to bring up the network? This may > > be why NetworkManager runs in run level 5, and network runs in run > > level 3? > > > > Note: I am writing this from a FC6 box, so I can not double check > > the service names/startup time in F8. Would someone please double > > check this? > ---- > I did double check it on F8 and NetworkManager is indeed chkconfig 98 2 > meaning S98 and K02 > > I think your assessment is probably correct. I gathered from an earlier > explanation that the 'Live CD' uses NetworkManager by default and > thereby gather that an installation by a 'Live CD' would mimic that. > > Obviously that would cause a few issues - such as the one under > discussion where ntpd starts before any network starts and I would think > that a bugzilla entry to NetworkManager should restart any services such > as ntpd upon establishing a network connection would be the end of > discussion. Indeed, my installation was done with a F8 *live* CD. I have put ntpd to be launched (at startup) after NetworkManager, but it did not solve the originally reported problem (ntp does not start at booting). Meanwhile, I asked for help on the NTP list; for more details, see: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.time.ntp/topics Paul
