On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 23:48 +0000, Paul Smith wrote: > On Dec 5, 2007 11:40 PM, Paul Smith <phhs80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Another thing. Are you sure that ntp isn't doing it's stuff, even > > > > > > > though the bootup shows a fail. Before you do the ntpd restart, run > > > > > > > the following as user. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/ntpq > > > > > > > then type pe, which will give you some info on which servers ntp is > > > > > > > trying to connect to, and how successfull it is being. You can keep > > > > > > > typing pe at intervals, which will show ntp's progress at reaching a > > > > > > > point where a time server is being used as a "sys peer". The server > > > > > > > being used will be prefixed by a "*". Other useable servers will be > > > > > > > prefixed by a "+" "candidat". To quit ntpq type q. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Nigel. In fact, > > > > > > # /usr/sbin/ntpq > > > > > > ntpq> pe > > > > > > No association ID's returned > > > > > > ntpq> pe > > > > > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > > > > > > jitter > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > >==== === clock-a.develoo 192.12.19.20 2 u 28 64 3 190.143 > > > > > > 438.261 9.311 ntpq> > > > > > > > > > > Well it appears to have a connection to the timeserver here, and often > > > > > takes a while before the timeserver is accepted as a system peer. Then an > > > > > "*" will appear before clock-a.develoo. Your reach is showing as 3, and > > > > > will gradually progress until it reaches 377, but this can take some > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > i.e., when I run pe after a while, I get the above, but the first time > > > > > > I run pe, I get > > > > > > > > > > > > 'No association ID's returned' > > > > > > > > > > That usually indicates that ntp cannot contact the timeserver, no network > > > > > connection, or the timeserver is not accessable. > > > > > > > > > > > Can I be sure that ntp is running now and synchronizing with a ntp > > > > > > server? > > > > > > > > > > It appears to be running, but I think you have a problem in only having > > > > > one timeserver available. > > > > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > Paul. I'd still suggest that you add more timeservers to your > > > > > /etc/ntp.conf. Try the 3 that I am using. I know they are not the closest > > > > > to you, but they have been reliable for me. As I mentioned earlier, make > > > > > sure that everything in /etc/ntp.conf is commented out, except the > > > > > driftfile line, comment out also your present server, and add the ones > > > > > I've listed below. Save the changes, restart the ntp daemon, and rerun > > > > > /usr/sbin/ntpq. Type pe every minute or so, and see how it progresses. > > > > > > > > > > server ntp.obspm.fr > > > > > server ntp.kamino.fr > > > > > server ntp2.belbone.be > > > > > > > > > > Is this just the one machine you have connected to the Internet, or are > > > > > you on a LAN with other machines that are also using ntp to get their > > > > > time from Internet timeservers? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, Nigel. Does it seem that it is working now? > > > > > > > > # /usr/sbin/ntpq > > > > ntpq> pe > > > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > > > > jitter > > > > =========================================================================== > > > >=== *syrte8.obspm.fr 134.157.254.19 2 u 27 64 377 62.413 132.612 > > > > 16.037 +ns1.kamino.fr 193.52.184.106 2 u 20 64 377 85.748 > > > > 119.231 10.125 +ntp2.belbone.be 195.13.23.6 2 u 54 64 377 > > > > 69.566 104.344 12.046 ntpq> > > > > > > > > No, I am directly connected to the Internet, with no LAN in between. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > That looks fine, and just what I'd expect to see. > > > > I have just noticed that at booting, the Network Manager daemon is > > loaded after the ntp one. This may be the cause of the problem. > > How can I configure my computer in order to have ntp being launched > after the network manager daemon? ---- I thought you completely shut off NetworkManager...it shouldn't even be there... # ls -l /etc/rc5.d/ |grep ntpd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2007-11-12 14:07 S58ntpd -> ../init.d/ntpd # ls -l /etc/rc5.d/ |grep network lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2007-11-12 14:03 S10network -> ../init.d/network Standard network starts up at 10, ntpd at 58...no problem there # ls -l /etc/rc5.d/ |grep NetworkManager lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2007-07-25 10:53 K02NetworkManager -> ../init.d/NetworkManager lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2007-07-25 10:53 K02NetworkManagerDispatcher -> ../init.d/NetworkManagerDispatcher Only K (kill) no S (start) so it's clearly not starting up at runlevel 5 # grep chkconfig /etc/init.d/NetworkManager # chkconfig: - 98 02 OK normal setup would have NetworkManager start at 98 which of course would be after ntpd (and most every other network service) but you clearly said that you had shut off NetworkManager (and NetworkManagerDispatcher) where I gave you the manual way and someone else gave you the GUI method of making sure that NetworkManager was off Craig
