On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 08:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Paul Smith wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2007 11:40 PM, Paul Smith <phhs80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> Another thing. Are you sure that ntp isn't doing it's stuff, even > >>>>>>> though the bootup shows a fail. Before you do the ntpd restart, run > >>>>>>> the following as user. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /usr/sbin/ntpq > >>>>>>> then type pe, which will give you some info on which servers ntp is > >>>>>>> trying to connect to, and how successfull it is being. You can keep > >>>>>>> typing pe at intervals, which will show ntp's progress at reaching a > >>>>>>> point where a time server is being used as a "sys peer". The server > >>>>>>> being used will be prefixed by a "*". Other useable servers will be > >>>>>>> prefixed by a "+" "candidat". To quit ntpq type q. > >>>>>> Thanks, Nigel. In fact, > >>>>>> # /usr/sbin/ntpq > >>>>>> ntpq> pe > >>>>>> No association ID's returned > >>>>>> ntpq> pe > >>>>>> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > >>>>>> jitter > >>>>>> ======================================================================= > >>>>>> ==== === clock-a.develoo 192.12.19.20 2 u 28 64 3 190.143 > >>>>>> 438.261 9.311 ntpq> > >>>>> Well it appears to have a connection to the timeserver here, and often > >>>>> takes a while before the timeserver is accepted as a system peer. Then an > >>>>> "*" will appear before clock-a.develoo. Your reach is showing as 3, and > >>>>> will gradually progress until it reaches 377, but this can take some > >>>>> time. > >>>>> > >>>>>> i.e., when I run pe after a while, I get the above, but the first time > >>>>>> I run pe, I get > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 'No association ID's returned' > >>>>> That usually indicates that ntp cannot contact the timeserver, no network > >>>>> connection, or the timeserver is not accessable. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Can I be sure that ntp is running now and synchronizing with a ntp > >>>>>> server? > >>>>> It appears to be running, but I think you have a problem in only having > >>>>> one timeserver available. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Paul > >>>>> Paul. I'd still suggest that you add more timeservers to your > >>>>> /etc/ntp.conf. Try the 3 that I am using. I know they are not the closest > >>>>> to you, but they have been reliable for me. As I mentioned earlier, make > >>>>> sure that everything in /etc/ntp.conf is commented out, except the > >>>>> driftfile line, comment out also your present server, and add the ones > >>>>> I've listed below. Save the changes, restart the ntp daemon, and rerun > >>>>> /usr/sbin/ntpq. Type pe every minute or so, and see how it progresses. > >>>>> > >>>>> server ntp.obspm.fr > >>>>> server ntp.kamino.fr > >>>>> server ntp2.belbone.be > >>>>> > >>>>> Is this just the one machine you have connected to the Internet, or are > >>>>> you on a LAN with other machines that are also using ntp to get their > >>>>> time from Internet timeservers? > >>>> Thanks again, Nigel. Does it seem that it is working now? > >>>> > >>>> # /usr/sbin/ntpq > >>>> ntpq> pe > >>>> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > >>>> jitter > >>>> =========================================================================== > >>>> === *syrte8.obspm.fr 134.157.254.19 2 u 27 64 377 62.413 132.612 > >>>> 16.037 +ns1.kamino.fr 193.52.184.106 2 u 20 64 377 85.748 > >>>> 119.231 10.125 +ntp2.belbone.be 195.13.23.6 2 u 54 64 377 > >>>> 69.566 104.344 12.046 ntpq> > >>>> > >>>> No, I am directly connected to the Internet, with no LAN in between. > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>> That looks fine, and just what I'd expect to see. > >> I have just noticed that at booting, the Network Manager daemon is > >> loaded after the ntp one. This may be the cause of the problem. > > > > How can I configure my computer in order to have ntp being launched > > after the network manager daemon? > > I told you that already..... > > In /etc/rc5.d (assuming you are booting to run level 5) move S58ntpd to > SXXntpd where XX is higher than the network manager daemon's number. > > There may be a GUI to do it....but I don't recall at the moment. ---- No Ed - he said he already turned off Network Manager Craig