Paul Smith wrote: > On Dec 5, 2007 11:40 PM, Paul Smith <phhs80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> Another thing. Are you sure that ntp isn't doing it's stuff, even >>>>>>> though the bootup shows a fail. Before you do the ntpd restart, run >>>>>>> the following as user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /usr/sbin/ntpq >>>>>>> then type pe, which will give you some info on which servers ntp is >>>>>>> trying to connect to, and how successfull it is being. You can keep >>>>>>> typing pe at intervals, which will show ntp's progress at reaching a >>>>>>> point where a time server is being used as a "sys peer". The server >>>>>>> being used will be prefixed by a "*". Other useable servers will be >>>>>>> prefixed by a "+" "candidat". To quit ntpq type q. >>>>>> Thanks, Nigel. In fact, >>>>>> # /usr/sbin/ntpq >>>>>> ntpq> pe >>>>>> No association ID's returned >>>>>> ntpq> pe >>>>>> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset >>>>>> jitter >>>>>> ======================================================================= >>>>>> ==== === clock-a.develoo 192.12.19.20 2 u 28 64 3 190.143 >>>>>> 438.261 9.311 ntpq> >>>>> Well it appears to have a connection to the timeserver here, and often >>>>> takes a while before the timeserver is accepted as a system peer. Then an >>>>> "*" will appear before clock-a.develoo. Your reach is showing as 3, and >>>>> will gradually progress until it reaches 377, but this can take some >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>>> i.e., when I run pe after a while, I get the above, but the first time >>>>>> I run pe, I get >>>>>> >>>>>> 'No association ID's returned' >>>>> That usually indicates that ntp cannot contact the timeserver, no network >>>>> connection, or the timeserver is not accessable. >>>>> >>>>>> Can I be sure that ntp is running now and synchronizing with a ntp >>>>>> server? >>>>> It appears to be running, but I think you have a problem in only having >>>>> one timeserver available. >>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>> Paul. I'd still suggest that you add more timeservers to your >>>>> /etc/ntp.conf. Try the 3 that I am using. I know they are not the closest >>>>> to you, but they have been reliable for me. As I mentioned earlier, make >>>>> sure that everything in /etc/ntp.conf is commented out, except the >>>>> driftfile line, comment out also your present server, and add the ones >>>>> I've listed below. Save the changes, restart the ntp daemon, and rerun >>>>> /usr/sbin/ntpq. Type pe every minute or so, and see how it progresses. >>>>> >>>>> server ntp.obspm.fr >>>>> server ntp.kamino.fr >>>>> server ntp2.belbone.be >>>>> >>>>> Is this just the one machine you have connected to the Internet, or are >>>>> you on a LAN with other machines that are also using ntp to get their >>>>> time from Internet timeservers? >>>> Thanks again, Nigel. Does it seem that it is working now? >>>> >>>> # /usr/sbin/ntpq >>>> ntpq> pe >>>> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset >>>> jitter >>>> =========================================================================== >>>> === *syrte8.obspm.fr 134.157.254.19 2 u 27 64 377 62.413 132.612 >>>> 16.037 +ns1.kamino.fr 193.52.184.106 2 u 20 64 377 85.748 >>>> 119.231 10.125 +ntp2.belbone.be 195.13.23.6 2 u 54 64 377 >>>> 69.566 104.344 12.046 ntpq> >>>> >>>> No, I am directly connected to the Internet, with no LAN in between. >>>> >>>> Paul >>> That looks fine, and just what I'd expect to see. >> I have just noticed that at booting, the Network Manager daemon is >> loaded after the ntp one. This may be the cause of the problem. > > How can I configure my computer in order to have ntp being launched > after the network manager daemon? I told you that already..... In /etc/rc5.d (assuming you are booting to run level 5) move S58ntpd to SXXntpd where XX is higher than the network manager daemon's number. There may be a GUI to do it....but I don't recall at the moment. Ed