David Boles wrote:
on 10/28/2007 4:11 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
on 10/28/2007 3:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
But note that there is nothing remotely illegal about the nvidia driver,
nor would there be any problem with the fedora project distributing it
themselves if they had any reason to care about the user experience.
Actually the legal state of the Nvidia driver is a matter of debate. Even
if it was legal it would not meet the Fedora policy, nor be in the
interests of the project.
When the users' interests aren't the same as the project's interests,
you have to wonder why there are any users - or how long there will be any.
The Linux users should get of their collective lazy a$$es and setup their
systems to suit themselves if they want to use non FOSS packages.
Since the current subject is Nvidia, a Windows install, for example, comes
with a 'it works' Nvidia video driver. Just like Linux does. *Not* the
fancy one from Nvidia that does all of the fancy stuff. The 'Stupid
Windows User' must go to the Nvidia site, find the proper driver for his
video card and install it to get the fancy video stuff.
So what you are saying or implying here? That 'Stupid Windows Users' know
more about their systems and how to set them up than 'Brilliant Linux
Users' do? ;-)
The Windows user has a screen with a pointer on it. He can use that
screen forever and be happy. If he is at home and wants to run Flight
Simulator he needs to get the better driver and the instruction on
flight sim include how to get it.
Fedora users discover a broken screen sometimes without a pointer
and that is how it works. Stupid since there are alternatives.
I didn't say that you should *not* use the Nvidia drivers Karl. Only that
you should be prepared to do the work needed to do that. And that you
should understand just *why* Fedora can *not* do this. And just why the
people on the 'third party sites' might be a little behind your needs.
Thinks like they might have real jobs. They are doing it because they want
to do it. And for no money. Kinda' hard to be upset with someone who is
giving you their time and efforts for free. That's all.
Well after all this "why we can't do a dam thing" let's consider how
to help a new user of Fedora x who stumbles onto this list and is asking
for help with the usual nvidia problems. We need someone to get those
people headed in the right direction. I will be willing to do that. As I
looked today nvidia is a big company making a lot of money. My computer
is full of there stuff. Since Fedora x will just work terrible with
nvidia I think we must be ready to help.
--
Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
Linux User
#450462 http://counter.li.org.
