On Friday 19 October 2007, John Summerfield wrote: > Where were you when NULL came out? I was a Red Hat Beta Tester at the time. I remember (NULL) quite well. Not sure of former Beta Test NDA status, or I would ask where you were when REDACTED came out. :-) Fedora 7 is a very different beast; (NULL) is ancient history. Let's let that be water under the bridge; Fedora is a much more friendly place for KDE than it once was. I look forward to seeing KDE 4 on F9 when it comes around! (hopefully KDE 4 will come around in time for F9) Rex is helping with F7 KDE directly, and his work shows in the very usable, very kde-redhatish, F7 KDE that I use daily. Thanks a bundle, Rex! Now, if you install PlanetCCRMA you will see a difference, but that's a completely different story. 'nando has a different audience; getting a useful Ardour/JAMiN signal chain for my multitrack audio production use is more important to me than some other purist ideas I might have..... -- Lamar Owen Chief Information Officer Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu