The confusion is mine, not F7's. What is the current situation with regard to the kde-redhat repository? Under FC6, I recall removing all the KDE packages that originally were installed at installation time, enabling the [kde] and [kde-all] repos, then re-installing the KDE packages from there. That brought in everything I needed, including kdelibs-3.5.7-9.fc6.x86_64 kdebase-3.5.7-6.fc6.x86_64 which I see in <http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/6/x86_64/RPMS.stable/> If I change /6/ to /7/ in the above link I see almost nothing of importance. How do I install the basic KDE packages for F7 that are minus all the stuff that Fedora does to make KDE look like Gnome? Have these been folded into the distribution? Dean