On 8/13/07, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Perhaps because Liberation is a "non-standard" font, font exporters > > assume that recipients won't have it and thus export to graphics in > > order to guarantee formatting is preserved. > > It springs to mind that perhaps a PDF file, or the originating > Postscript file used to make a PDF file, can embed certain *types* of > fonts as fonts (e.g. Postscript fonts), but text using other types might > have to be incorporated as pre-rendered graphics. Rather than it being > certain fonts, in themselves. Liberation Fonts can be embedded as copyable text in PDF files in F7. But it seems that the F7 mechanism of printing to a PS file is not right, as when printing to a PS from www.gmail,com, one gets with ps2pdf a PDF file with the following fonts: $ pdffonts gmail.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- --------- WQDACH+Liberation_Sans.Bold.0.0.10b6c.9a62.Set0 Type 1C yes yes no 13 0 TAMSTW+Liberation_Sans.Regular.0.0.1b044.b87a.Set0 Type 1C yes yes no 11 0 GBGOAU+Nimbus_Roman_No9_L.Regular.0.0.23ec4.b59e.Set0 Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 $ However, if one goes to OpenOffice to create a document only with Libeartion Fonts and then one exports the document to PDF, one gets a PDF with *copyable* text and with the Liberation Fonts embedded: $ pdffonts ooo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- --------- BAAAAA+LiberationSans TrueType yes yes yes 14 0 CAAAAA+LiberationSans-Bold TrueType yes yes yes 9 0 $ Paul