and, moving on, here's what appears to be the final(?) steps in the recipe (from http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=156282): # bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~fedora/wl_apsta.o # echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist # modprobe -r bcm43xx # modprobe -r ieee80211softmac # modprobe -r ieee80211_crypt # modprobe -r ieee80211 # modprobe -r bcm43xx_mac80211 # modprobe bcm43xx_mac80211 "Then I plugged along and enabled NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher" does all of that sound sane? if so, i'll give it a shot. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ========================================================================