ok, part 1, starting with a new and freshly-updated F7 install on a gateway MX7120, here's the current situation without doing *anything* additional, and what someone might want to check just for sanity. from /var/log/dmesg: ... bcm43xx-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found ssb: Switching to IEEE 802.11 core, index 1 bcm43xx-phy0 debug: Found PHY: Analog 3, Type 2, Revision 7 bcm43xx-phy0 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2050, Revision 8 bcm43xx-phy0 debug: Radio turned off ... # ls /lib/firmware/ ipw2100-1.3.fw ipw2200-sniffer.fw ipw-2.4-ibss_ucode.fw LICENSE.ipw2200 ipw2100-1.3-i.fw ipw-2.4-boot.fw ipw-2.4-sniffer.fw zd1211 ipw2100-1.3-p.fw ipw-2.4-bss.fw ipw-2.4-sniffer_ucode.fw ipw2200-bss.fw ipw-2.4-bss_ucode.fw iwlwifi-3945.ucode ipw2200-ibss.fw ipw-2.4-ibss.fw LICENSE.ipw2100 # iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"" Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B Encryption key:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 # lsmod ... bcm43xx_mac80211 400289 0 firewire_ohci 20673 0 snd_pcm 74949 4 snd_atiixp,snd_atiixp_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss firewire_core 43137 1 firewire_ohci ssb 34757 1 bcm43xx_mac80211 mac80211 147017 2 rc80211_simple,bcm43xx_mac80211 ... is there anything else that would be worth examining and recording before going any further? i like making a record of stuff like this so i can compare what changes. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ========================================================================