Re: Palm T|X on Fedora 7

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On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 08:36 +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
> On 07/17/2007 07:59 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 10:46 -0700, Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 10:23 -0700, Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
> >>>> Craig White wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 15:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >>>>>> Craig White wrote:
> >>>>>>> I am struggling trying to make a Palm T|X work on Fedora 7
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The problem *may* lie with the fact that in order to make this box work
> >>>>>>> (A Dell Optiplex 320), that I have to add 'pci=nomsi acpi=off' kernel
> >>>>>>> params on bootup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> udevinfo tells me all about the device.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can see the device exists when I plug it in and check it via
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ls -l /dev/ttyUSB* and
> >>>>>>> ls -l /dev/pilot
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but even if I try (as root),
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB1 or pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/pilot show
> >>>>>>> nothing at all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is the problem my kernel parameters?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> It probably isn't your kernel parameters. If it were, then
> >>>>>> /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/USB1 most likely not be created. What happens
> >>>>>> if you use /dev/ttyUSB0? Or, if you have more then 2 ttyUSB*
> >>>>>> entries, try using /dev/ttyUSB2. I don't remember if the T|X uses
> >>>>>> the first or second USB serial port that is created when you hit sync...
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>> OK - didn't know the impact of the kernel params
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*
> >>>>> crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 0 2007-07-17 09:52 /dev/ttyUSB0
> >>>>> crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 1 2007-07-17 09:52 /dev/ttyUSB1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and from dmesg...
> >>>>> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6
> >>>>> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> >>>>> visor 4-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected
> >>>>> usb 4-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> >>>>> usb 4-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but while the palm is using ttyUSB0/1 - I get nada...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Listening for incoming connection on /dev/ttyUSB1...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB0
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Listening for incoming connection on /dev/ttyUSB0...
> >>>>> #
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but never anything else  ;-(
> >>>> As you can see the device files are owned and writable by only root. 
> >>>> There are couple of options that you can try,
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. change the permissions on device files as root.
> >>>>     # chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB*
> >>>>
> >>>>     Try to sync your palm.
> >>> ----
> >>> you might note the "#" cli prompt which is typical for user root.
> >>>
> >>> Trying to sync the palm is rather pointless if you can't do a basic
> >>> listing of the files on the palm from the pilot-xfer (pilot-link
> >>> package) which is the base package that all of the GUI tools
> >>> (JPilot/KPilot/GPilot) all use.
> >>> ----
> >>>> 2. Review the udev rules for ttyUSB* under /etc/udev/rules.d. It is very 
> >>>> likely that the default mode is set to "0660". You can refer to 
> >>>> 50-udev.rules file. Here is a link from one of the old RH Magazines.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.redhat.com/magazine/002dec04/features/udev/
> >>> ----
> >>> I am all over the udev rules - I am a long time palm user but that is
> >>> more for 'users' and I am simply trying to communicate with the palm via
> >>> pilot-xfer which as stated above, is the basic toolset for accessing a
> >>> palm. The udev rules are tilted towards user space and again, I am
> >>> trying to work this through as root first.
> >>>
> >>> I am quite certain that this would work with FC-6 but that isn't the
> >>> point...there is an issue with F7 and it would help if someone related
> >>> what they have done to get a Palm working on F7 - especially one of the
> >>> newer 'OS5' Palms
> >>>
> >> For whatever it is worth, i have added the following lines to 
> >> 50-udev.rules on F7 to get the palm sync work with jpilot (the palm 
> >> device is configured as /dev/ttyUSB0). I have found that this is missing 
> >> in F7 from that of FC6 (of course i had to change the MODE to 0777).
> >>
> >> KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", SYMLINK+="pilot", 
> >> GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777"
> >> KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="palmOne Handheld*", 
> >> SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777"
> >> KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="Handspring Visor*", 
> >> SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777"
> > ----
> > thanks - I already have the same thing except MODE="0666" (files not
> > folders) but that is for user space and I can't get root to be able to
> > talk to the palm device other than, per my original post, udevinfo can
> > get the information from the palm but pilot-xfer/pilot-link cannot.
> > 
> > I am reasonably certain that this issue is related to the newest palm
> > devices with what they call 'lifedrive'
> > 
> > http://www.pilot-link.org/node/253
> 
> I have a T|X which I backup on my F7 laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200).  It is
> relatively painless, but not completely.
> 
> I have the following udev rule (I have a lot more, derived from, but not
> identical to, the ones in /usr/share/pilot-link/udev/60-libpisock.rules):
> 
> KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0830", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0061",
> SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0664"
> 
> With this rule, there is a shortish window of opportunity to start
> pilot-xfer after I push the hotsync button on the Palm side.  If I am
> too fast (or start it before I push the button), it doesn't work, and if
> I am too late, it just hangs.
> 
> I use /dev/pilot which is created (by udev) as a symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1
> (i.e. not /dev/ttyUSB0).
----
this sounds really good - I'm going to give this a try in a few minutes
- This is the boss's palm TX and F7 system while I am not having any
issues with my Treo 650 and FC6, I have set up a second system using
x86_65 (F7) and steal his Palm TX and play with it at my desk instead of
trying to push him out of his desk.

Thanks
 
-- 
Craig White <[email protected]>


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