On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 10:46 -0700, Srikanth Konjarla wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 10:23 -0700, Srikanth Konjarla wrote: > >> Craig White wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 15:13 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >>>> Craig White wrote: > >>>>> I am struggling trying to make a Palm T|X work on Fedora 7 > >>>>> > >>>>> The problem *may* lie with the fact that in order to make this box work > >>>>> (A Dell Optiplex 320), that I have to add 'pci=nomsi acpi=off' kernel > >>>>> params on bootup. > >>>>> > >>>>> udevinfo tells me all about the device. > >>>>> > >>>>> I can see the device exists when I plug it in and check it via > >>>>> > >>>>> ls -l /dev/ttyUSB* and > >>>>> ls -l /dev/pilot > >>>>> > >>>>> but even if I try (as root), > >>>>> > >>>>> pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB1 or pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/pilot show > >>>>> nothing at all > >>>>> > >>>>> Is the problem my kernel parameters? > >>>>> > >>>> It probably isn't your kernel parameters. If it were, then > >>>> /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/USB1 most likely not be created. What happens > >>>> if you use /dev/ttyUSB0? Or, if you have more then 2 ttyUSB* > >>>> entries, try using /dev/ttyUSB2. I don't remember if the T|X uses > >>>> the first or second USB serial port that is created when you hit sync... > >>> ---- > >>> OK - didn't know the impact of the kernel params > >>> > >>> # ls -l /dev/ttyUSB* > >>> crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 0 2007-07-17 09:52 /dev/ttyUSB0 > >>> crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 1 2007-07-17 09:52 /dev/ttyUSB1 > >>> > >>> and from dmesg... > >>> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 > >>> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > >>> visor 4-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected > >>> usb 4-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0 > >>> usb 4-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1 > >>> > >>> but while the palm is using ttyUSB0/1 - I get nada... > >>> > >>> # pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB1 > >>> > >>> Listening for incoming connection on /dev/ttyUSB1... > >>> > >>> # pilot-xfer -l -p /dev/ttyUSB0 > >>> > >>> Listening for incoming connection on /dev/ttyUSB0... > >>> # > >>> > >>> but never anything else ;-( > >> As you can see the device files are owned and writable by only root. > >> There are couple of options that you can try, > >> > >> 1. change the permissions on device files as root. > >> # chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB* > >> > >> Try to sync your palm. > > ---- > > you might note the "#" cli prompt which is typical for user root. > > > > Trying to sync the palm is rather pointless if you can't do a basic > > listing of the files on the palm from the pilot-xfer (pilot-link > > package) which is the base package that all of the GUI tools > > (JPilot/KPilot/GPilot) all use. > > ---- > >> 2. Review the udev rules for ttyUSB* under /etc/udev/rules.d. It is very > >> likely that the default mode is set to "0660". You can refer to > >> 50-udev.rules file. Here is a link from one of the old RH Magazines. > >> > >> http://www.redhat.com/magazine/002dec04/features/udev/ > > ---- > > I am all over the udev rules - I am a long time palm user but that is > > more for 'users' and I am simply trying to communicate with the palm via > > pilot-xfer which as stated above, is the basic toolset for accessing a > > palm. The udev rules are tilted towards user space and again, I am > > trying to work this through as root first. > > > > I am quite certain that this would work with FC-6 but that isn't the > > point...there is an issue with F7 and it would help if someone related > > what they have done to get a Palm working on F7 - especially one of the > > newer 'OS5' Palms > > > For whatever it is worth, i have added the following lines to > 50-udev.rules on F7 to get the palm sync work with jpilot (the palm > device is configured as /dev/ttyUSB0). I have found that this is missing > in F7 from that of FC6 (of course i had to change the MODE to 0777). > > KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", SYMLINK+="pilot", > GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777" > KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="palmOne Handheld*", > SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777" > KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", SYSFS{product}=="Handspring Visor*", > SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0777" ---- thanks - I already have the same thing except MODE="0666" (files not folders) but that is for user space and I can't get root to be able to talk to the palm device other than, per my original post, udevinfo can get the information from the palm but pilot-xfer/pilot-link cannot. I am reasonably certain that this issue is related to the newest palm devices with what they call 'lifedrive' http://www.pilot-link.org/node/253 thanks -- Craig White <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>