On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:39, David Boles wrote: > on 7/14/2007 6:12 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > Karl Larsen wrote: > >> Ian Malone wrote: > >>> What you've documented are the basic steps to take if it doesn't > >>> work straight off (identify your chipset, check to see if it's > >>> supported), but there are cases where more work is required. > >>> Have a look at the ongoing "Add Wireless to Laptop" thread for > >>> instance. > >> > >> Let us just agree to disagree. I think my writing is far superior to > >> the tiny bits of data people give a person trying to set up a wifi > >> laptop. It goes on and on like the "Add Wireless to Laptop" thread. > > > > I don't see what we're disagreeing about. There's nothing wrong > > with documenting the first things to try; it could save a lot of > > people a lot of time knowing to do things that I would do > > automatically[1], it's a good thing. But I indicated the thread I > > did because that's a case where we know what the driver is but > > whatever the reason it isn't working is is more complex. It is the > > reason we have mailing lists: you can't cover every eventuality. > > > > There's no point me telling someone to do X, Y and Z when > > X fails to work, therefore Y isn't possible and Z doesn't > > even make sense on their setup. > > > > [1] These days things I'd do before even buying a computer. > > It never ceases to amaze me when someone who knows little, or nothing, > about Linux or their computer hardware, does not spend some time doing a > little basic research, a little reading, a little Google searching, maybe > even lurk a list like this one for a month *before* they even attempt to > install some distribution of Linux on anything. > > Just in the last month it would be really obvious that if you: > > > a) Want to watch DVD movies? > b) Listen to music CDs? > c) Have a laptop? > d) Want/need 3D graphic support? > e) WiFi connections? > > Answer to all of the above, and more: It takes extra steps. > > These same questions, and others like them, recycle about every two weeks > or so. Followed but the same answers. > > My guess on the next one? Where are the CDs for Fedora 7? In my case the CD's for Fedora 7 are neatly stacked up on my floppy disk box just behind me. Said CD iso's having been made available by John Reiser. Fedora 7 installed ok albeit for a few post install problems that I've resolved. Nigel.