Tim: >>> What are you going to do when serial ports disappear from motherboards? Chris Mohler: >> Weep! Andras Simon: > No! Curse! Much more efficient! :-) > > Or, as a last resort, get a usb->serial port converter. > > BTW, I'm only advocating this approach, not using it myself. I don't > remember having a lockup since I last tried to use NVidia's driver. > But then I'm not using Gnome or KDE, just a trusty old fvwm (1.24r). I was serious in asking it. While I haven't done the serial console trick, I see the purpose of it, and the need to be able to do such things. I don't know if a USB-serial doodah would be useful in the situations where you might use a serial console, you mightn't have anything available to drive it. -- (This PC runs FC4, my others FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.