On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 12:35 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have apache as a group member. So long as the group member has > read-only access that's fine, right? Why should apache be 'other' if I > am expecting her to access the files? It's not Apache that's "other", it's that you're marking files as to be readable by "other" people, Apache just happens to be in the middle. If you were to play the game where you own the files, you add Apache as a group that can read the files, and didn't even think about the "other" permissions. *Other* users can use Apache, and they can read files that Apache can. There are various strange ways you can set up servers, but if you want to take advice, or use other scripts and things that make use of webserving files, and not play mental gymnastics to resolve issues, it's easier to go along with the usual way of doing things. -- (This PC runs FC4, my others FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.