On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 15:15 +1030, Tim wrote: > Craig White: > >>> Most people generally just want to use a computer, not make a project > >>> out of it. > >>> > >>> Windows isn't crap and just reading you express that sentiment makes > >>> it clear that you aren't the least bit objective. > > Tim: > >> And that's why Windows *is* crap. As a long-suffering user of it, and > >> long-suffering repairer of it for other long-suffering users of it, I've > >> earnt the right to judge a product on how well, or otherwise, that it > >> works. If it weren't so crap, it wouldn't be so self-destructive, and > >> users wouldn't have to make a pet project of it just to keep it in good > >> health. > > Anne Wilson: > > Can't help but feel that guns don't kill anyone - it's the person behind the > > gun that kills. > > I've always felt that mantra to be rather fatuous. > > > Many people use windows safely for many years. I know one person who > > reinstalls every few weeks, and another that only changes version when > > a new box build is needed - several years apart. > > And many don't use it safely. Many use it in a permanently broken > condition, unaware that it is. Unaware that it could be fixed, or > unable to do so. Unaware or unconcerned that it causes other people > problems. It's self destructiveness, inappropriateness for the > unskilled users its marketed at, it's expensiveness yet lack of good > workmanship, and a plethora of other problems that could fill pages if > you expanded only slightly on the details are what makes it a crap > product, just the same as any other crap product deserves being called > crap, whether it's badly made shoes, motor cars, or anything else. ---- I have a WinXP system available with two taps of the scroll-lock key and a press of the number 1 key. It runs very well but I hardly use it. It's not self-destructive and the workmanship is certainly on a par with any Linux desktop OS that I have used and better than any Macintosh OSX desktop I have used. Of course I don't run as super-user on Windows just like I don't do that on Linux either. My issues with Microsoft primarily revolve around licensing issues that most users try not to understand. Crap is a subjective characterization that may provide satisfaction to those who want to believe it but that suggests that 90%+ of computer buyers are fools. Your argument isn't convincing very many people. ---- > > And those that do use it safely tend to be because they've made a pet > project out of it. All the plethora of add-ons required for safety, > education beyond what's supplied with the manual, repairing it when *it* > has stuffed up, and so on... ---- and you think Linux has a better track record on these issues? Craig
