Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Todd Zullinger wrote: [...] >>I think you'd have to admit that using consolehelper to start up >>various programs -- somewhat random depending on the user's >>needs/wants -- is a pain in the ass. > > It's not what consolehelper is designed to do. It is meant for > *applications*. Not directly by end users. Agreed. And that makes it the wrong solution for the task Bill was asking about. >>Am I missing something about the consolehelper method that would >>make this process quicker and more flexible? > > There is a view point that su helpers are a wrong model. > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/portland/2006-April/000384.html I don't disagree that a better method than su helpers would be ideal for desktop and gui users. The problem is that those methods don't exist yet and there are more than a few users who would like to do things that require root privileges using some sort of gui. Since Fedora has disabled fast user switching in gnome (which I completely understand, as it makes for some interesting permissions issues), this leaves those users with the alternative of starting a terminal and running sudo appname or logging out as a user and logging in as root. Neither of which are as nice as it'd be to be able to create a launcher that did this. I'd say that in the interim until su helpers aren't needed something like gksu would be an improvement to many users. >>Just out of curiosity, is there a way to start up a file browser as >>root without a terminal in a default Fedora setup (meaning a Gnome >>desktop) short of logging out of your user account and logging in as >>root? > > kdesu? ;-) Oh man, now I have to get my flame retardant suit on in case that starts a KDE versus Gnome knock-down-drag-out battle. ;-) But it does point out that such a su helper is shipped with KDE so including one for Gnome wouldn't be so wrong. -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ====================================================================== To err is human; to blame it on somebody else is even more human. -- John Nadeau
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