Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:10, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> For example, does 0.1% or 1% or 10% have problems reading the CDs? >> Who knows? > > What would this really tell you? If we were talking of commercially > produced > CDs then all would be burned, presumably, to limits normally acceptable. > As it is, there is the matter of manufacturer/age/condition of the burner, > type of media used, application and method used to make the burn - and > that's without the fact that the user may or may not have checked the > download sha1sum and the burn's validity In my experience, the issue often has nothing to do with the CD burner, since the same problems occur - failure to read some rpm - in much the same way if you try to install from hard disk. Also I never seem to get any problems reading from CDs except during Fedora installation. > I understand the frustration about the number of people talking about > this, but I don't see how you could rule out all the variables. If it were found that, say, 25% of users had problems with installation this might encourage the Anaconda team to improve their product. For example, it should be simple to allow a second read of the CD in case of failure - Windows does this. And I don't see why one should not be able to resume from the point where things broke down. But basically, Fedora claims to be user-oriented, so there is an obligation to find out how the user fares. In my opinion it would be better if the Anaconda team concentrated on helping users get a basic system installed and working, and leaving complications to be dealt with later. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland