Suppose KDE did go into extras. How exactly is someone who wants Fedora + KDE meant to proceed? Is the suggestion that you install Gnome, and then when the system is working add KDE? I know it is claimed the idea is to improve KDE, but I can't help suspecting it is part of the plot to get people to use Gnome instead. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland