On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 10:26 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 08:45 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 14:26 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: > >> > >> >> 1. Extras really should not be regarded as a "second class citizen" to > >> >> Core in the first place, and > >> > >> > I wouldn't be sure. Though I on one hand agree that RH's work on KDE > >> > has not been a "proof of exellence", on the other hand, I think, a > >> > couple of overly ambitious KDE hackers in Extras could be harmful. > >> > > >> >> 2. It would be maintained in Extras by the same people that brought > >> >> you the kde-redhat project, so you'd probably get better-packaged, > >> >> more up to date releases than is currently possible in Core. > >> > C.f. my comment to 1) above. > >> > >> I'd hope such a large maintainership burden would be done by a team, > >> which certainly would include rh's current kde maintainer. > > > IMO, it's only a matter of time until somebody will screw KDE and nobody > > will feel responsible - Up to now we all had RH's KDE maintainer to > > blame, but then we won't have him. > > I take it, then, you don't have much faith in Extras *at all*. Well, whether you like it or not, Fedora leadership so far has not given me much reason for faith in them ... > The same > argument can be made against everything in Extras. Not quite. It's the size of KDE and its complexity is what makes the difference - I strongly doubt a couple of "ambitious young man" will be able to handle it. > >> > 3. It would close out RH from a technology > > >> IMO, simply being in Extras != "close out RH from a technology" > > > 1. RH != Fedora !!! > > true! Which puzzles me why you mentioned it, because it appears to weaken > the original assertion even more. Why? I said, *RH* is decoupling itself from what others consider a core component - If *they* think this is wise, ... well, I think they are in error. > > 2. There are no FE CDs. > Coming soon! (Or at least a method to create customizable Fedora > installation media using your choice of bits from Core+Extras). See above. I've read to many false promises from Fedora leadership to give any trust in any such promise before I have it in my hands. > > 3. anaconda is meaningless rpm-wise. > > I don't follow here. You don't need anaconda to install Fedora. All that matters is rpm and repositories => All you need is an rpm installer, such as yum or apt. Ralf