On 1/22/06, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have no specific complaint about any subproject or the speed > that they do or don't complete projects. I'm just pointing > out that other distributions seem to have considered it > mainstream need instead of waiting for someone else to do > it somewhere else. And other distributions which pride themselves on being a community project haven't considered a livecd important and have in fact waited for someone else to do it somewhere else. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd Or has Debian, the gold standard in community driven linux distribution, become irrelevant in your opinion? Lets all remember kids that knoppix was not part of any official debian initiative and is not formally a part of the debian project at this very moment in time. It along with all the other Debain based livecd's are in fact seperately maintained offshoot projects that live outside of the formal Debian project structure. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact there are a lot of Debian offshoots which are not formally a part of Debian, which are popular and make up a large Debian-based ecosystem. Ubuntu itself is actually an offshoot of Debian which leverages the work done by larger community of Debian contributors, but isn't formally a part of the Debian project. I really don't see why its not acceptible for Fedora to have a similar ecosystem of competing projects which feedback ideas across the ecyosystem over time.. that spreads the development workload around among community members who are willing to suck it up and get the work done to meet specific needs... instead of idly complaining about the allocation of Core's finite resources to satify everyone's infinitely diverse desires. -jef