Should I submit a bug report asking for a new feature? I think chmod, if not other coreutils, should all be installed as 'immutable'. History - One of my students did a chmod a-x /bin/* After some thought I fixed this by mounting the /bin directory onto a VFat and moved the new 0755 file to linux. Is there a way to execute chmod when it is set 0644? Is there a way to change the file permissions when chmod is disabled? At any rate, I set all my students chmod files to immutable (chattr +i chmod) Thoughts? Comments? -- WC -Sx- Jones | http://ccsh.us/ | Open Source Consulting