On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:28 -0700, Craig White wrote: replying to myself - and wanting to provide a track of my getting it to work (at least a temporary fix) and also because I vented last night. FC-3 - apparently udev is the issue so I am providing a manual workaround in the interim. as root... mknod /tmp/pilot c 188 1 chown craig /tmp/pilot plug in treo and press hotsync button as craig (cli) pilot-xfer -L -p /tmp/pilot Works - got file list from Treo so to make gpilotd work I had to add... <!-- Handspring Treo 650 --> <device vendor_id="0830" product_id="0061" /> to /usr/share/gnome-pilot/devices.xml bugzilla entry that led me here... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158809 Thanks all Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.