On 6/15/05, THUFIR HAWAT <hawat.thufir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 6/14/05, Kevin J. Cummings <cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > THUFIR HAWAT wrote: > > > On 6/14/05, Kevin J. Cummings <cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I unplugged the wl-330g, turning it off. then I plugged its power > > > cable in and connected it to the PAP2 with a crossover cable. (it has > > > a power cord and ethernet jack, seperate.) I played around with the > > > squence, trying the PAP2 with power first and so on, plugging in the > > > crossover cable before the wl-330g's power cable, etc. the phone was > > > always plugged in. I used the phone not long ago, so I "know" that > > > the phone works ;) > > > > > > the best I could get were some pretty lights from the PAP2, then a > > > blinking, intermittent light. no dial-tone from the phone. > > > > I would think that if it matters at all, you want to cable it all up > > with the power off to both devices. Then power up the dl-330g, then > > power up the PAP2. If it works, then it will negotiate an IP address > > with the wl-330g (or through it). I have no idea if further > > configuration of the PAP2 is then necessary. > > > > yeah, I tried that sequence. > > > > > this setup is premised on the wl-330g's ability to renegotiate the MAC > > > on the fly? I don't think it's that smart. I don't have the source, > > > but I looked into this previously. > > > > Its not re-nogotiation of the MAC address, but of an IP address to use > > in the network. IP addresses allow devices to have their packets routed > > via the IP portion of TCP/IP. MAC addresses only identify the > > underlying hardware of a device. While the MAC address is encoded into > > your TCP/IP packets, it is not used for routing per se. It may be used > > by switches or bridges to limit unnecessary traffic on subnets, but does > > not enter into TCP/IP configurations beyond that. > > > > What *should* occur is that your PAP2 should request an IP address on a > > broadcast to the DHCP server on (or through) the wl-330g. When it is > > successful, the PAP2 will configure itself much like your eth0 ethernet > > card does in your computer when it is connected instead. This process > > causes the proper routes to be set up in order that the TCP/IP packets > > are delivered to their intended locations. If it doesn't work, you > > might have to put a network sniffer on the line to figure out why not > > (which would complicate an intentionally simple hardware setup!). At > > least if you try this through a Linux computer, you could run some > > sniffing software under Linux and look at the packets at both eth0 and > > eth1, but that would require a fair expertise with TCP/IP to understand > > what's going on.... > > > > It all comes down to the capabilities built-in to the wl-330g, the PAP2, > > and whether or not they will play with each other. You should be able > > to determine this by reading the manuals that come with each device. > > > > Sorry that this doesn't plag and play.... If it doesn't its not Linux's > > fault! B^) > > > > that's it, I'm taking linux back! what's torvald's phone number? > > heh, seriously, I think I found a way around this, or at least a > different problem to solve :) > > I got a second computer, ancient celeron, running. right now it runs > windows 2000. I could install fedora on this "new" computer, but > that'd mean burning multiple cd's or something. I might put disc1 on > a cd-rw and just do a minimal install. > > anyhow, I figure if I start with networking the two computers, that's > at least, hopefully, an easier job. hopefully, it will be make it > easier to set up the VOIP once I've got both computers on the > internet :) > > so, I'm going to thank everyone for the help on this thread, and go in > a slightly different direction for the time being. > > -Thufir > That 'minimal install' that you mention won't work. I also tried installing a 'minimal' FC3 off disc 1, no-go. You need all three (for some reason I have four.). I once successfully installed off of discs 1 & 2, however. Dotan http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/64/beatles.php Beatles Song Lyrics