On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 11:10 -0700, Craig White wrote: > My reaction is that someone that has a signature that includes - Total > Quality Management - A Commitment to Excellence just after he asks > others to provide research and conclusions for them for material that is > already available is more apt to spout slogans than is willing to > perform them. First of all, what is with the ad hominem? Secondly, quality management means quality of process. That's rather difficult to accomplish when I don't have a reasonable understanding. I have stated, from the outset, that I have been unable to comprehend the materials sufficiently to implement SEL with the comfort level that I need. If that upsets you, to the point of being insulting, then I suggest that find another endeavor other than posting to mail lists. > Suggesting to others that that they can feel comfortable turning off > provided protection because 2.4 kernel doesn't use SE Linux seems to be > as much a disservice as broadcasting a commitment to excellence and then > failing to do adequate research on your own. I didn't suggest anything to anyone other than the fact that I lack comprehension of the subject (repeatedly). I never even mentioned the 2.4 kernel. Moreover, research and comprehension are two different things. Some things click and some things don't. SELinux has been one of this things that I find extremely esoteric (whether it is or is not). What I was trying to understand was a specific - real world - vulnerability and how it would be resolved with SEL. If you find that unreasonable or upsetting then, really, let someone else respond - if they choose to. I have run some fairly large organizations. My approach has not always been focused and disciplined. I've learned from those mistakes. -- Total Quality Management - A Commitment to Excellence Fight Spam: http://www.tqmcube.com/rbldnsd.htm Daily Updates: http://www.tqmcube.com/spam_trap.htm rsync -l tqmcube.com::spamlists