Hi > And I thought it was the drink ... :-) > > Actually thunderbird doesn't show up anywhere at all on the system > except from my download, so I'm re-installing for the fifth time > because something is clearly wrong. reinstalling to solve such a trivial problem is the wrong approach. choose to auto partition your system and then when you have a working system just download the rpm from any of the mirrors and install it if yum install thunderbird doesnt work for you -- Regards, Rahul Sundaram