Fedora Users — Re: List etiquette question

Jeff Vian wrote:

On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 14:12 -0500, ghod wrote:

Ed Wilts, RHCE wrote:

On 11/20/2004 09:58 AM, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

As a suggestion for the future, please do not post in HTML to this list.

The simplest way to train the HTML users is to ignore any HTML 
posting.  There are so many questions to so many lists that we all 
have to choose which to respond to and which to ignore.  Ignore the 
HTML ones and eventually they'll get the message.

    .../Ed

That's not training that RUDE
I simply made a simple error when tryingto reply on my winBLOWS account 
so SUE me, I'm working on fixing a ISP provider error on my unix account

JERK
he said something and I fixed it.. was it that hard to mention it?
I know to post in plain text to the list.. was just using a different system

I'm mean it.. the RUDE arrogant people on this list really need to take 
a look at themselves!!!!

I will not help if they top post!
I will not help if they use html
I will not help if they make a typo
I will not help I will only make trouble!

GO GET A LIFE!
if you want to help HELP or shut the FUCK UP!

Ghod

Ed was responding because of the many people that have spoken in this
thread with the attitude that they can do whatever they want, no matter
that it irritates the members of the community, and they expect everyone
to overlook their arrogance and abrasive attitude.

If you are so thin-skinned that his comment is taken personally (as it
seems it was) then you are the one who loses here. 

Every one here, who routinely provides assistance to many, deserves
respect and thanks for their expertise and a willingness to share their
knowledge and teach those who ask for assistance.

I agree with most, that those who ask politely (including not posting in
HTML or if it happens inadvertently are willing to acknowledge it and
correct the problem) deserve an answer.  OTOH, those who DEMAND an
answer and are arrogant in their attitude do NOT deserve an answer.

Which are you?

The problem with this arguement is if he IGNORES the user the user will never know now will he? and will not be able to fix the problem now will he? and will never know why he hasn't got a reply now will he?

Now if he is told 1-2 times to fix the HTML and refuses... then an ignore is well worth it in your opinion I will still read them, since the answers made actually inlighten me on something
so as to not walk around the world with a closed mind, I don't wish to follow your rules.

well since I haven't asked a question and have only been repling to a clogged e-mail box with this thread, I guess it's not really clear.

I do help and rarely I do ask for help.. but IF I ask for help it would be a NEW post on topic which of course I would NEVER demand an answer for.

But I NEVER tell people I wouldn't answer them cause they do something in a way I don't approve. I'm not MOM for this group and I suspect nobody wants that job.

So it boils down to what I said earlier..
if you want to help ... then help
stop preaching and HELP!
mention things that bother you, but don't use it as way to decide if you want to help.
my my what if some day the rules change and MS (the hated company that it is) actually writes a standard where top posting is the standard.. you gonna give up e-mail and posting PERIOD?

If we are all so stiff that if it's not perfect for us we rant and rave then we are not helpful and more likely harmful.

we are human, humans make errors NEWSFLASH!!!

The ranting about HTML is tiring and silly these people DEMAND that the posts not be in HTML
fine, but the arguements they use are all flawed, since they include HTML tags and links in EVERY ONE OF THEM! I post in plain text for the digest users. but each post still include HTML links on how to unsubscribe to the list, and the list name.
back in the stone age they used stones, we have evolved... we need to do the same with HTML and other things as well... holding the line is NOT always the best course of action.
I've have used and still know how to use command line mail. I've made a choice to STOP using it. I would assume almost everyone here has.. those that argue agiinst are just here to argue for the most part. or they still live in the stone age!