If I was a new comer to Fedora I would find this message VERY OFFENDING!!!! This list exists because of new comers and old comers using Fedora!!! To the original poster Marius Andreiana, and I am an old comer you can kiss my white ass!!! Yes I do take offence to your alienating anyone needing information and help! If you do not want to help someone then keep your mouth shut and allow others that want to share do so!!! Dam this pisses me off that someone would be this small and would bitch about users Of this group helping each other!!! Renee Lee -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marius Andreiana Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:38 AM To: fedora Subject: to newcomers: please try to solve the problem yourself before asking Before asking to this mailing list please * search on google (it includes mailing list archives) * see the distribution release notes if something doesn't work anymore as it used to after upgrading * if you're looking for an application, search on freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net * browse the table of contents of RedHat excellent manuals http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ In maximum 5 minutes of your time you could find the answer, probably learning more. If no answer found or still unclear, ask here. This will keep the list focused on problems which haven't been solved yet, being a source of inspiration for where things can improve. Also see How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Maybe this can be added to the README posted monthly by Jane. Thanks! -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list