----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana-Renee Lee" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'For users of Fedora Core releases'" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <mandreiana@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: RE: to newcomers: please try to solve the problem yourself beforeasking > If I was a new comer to Fedora I would find this message VERY OFFENDING!!!! > This list exists because of new comers and old comers using Fedora!!! > > To the original poster Marius Andreiana, and I am an old comer you can kiss > my white ass!!! > > Yes I do take offence to your alienating anyone needing information and > help! > If you do not want to help someone then keep your mouth shut and allow > others that want to share do so!!! > > Dam this pisses me off that someone would be this small and would bitch > about users > Of this group helping each other!!! > > Renee Lee <SNIP BIG TIME> Greetings All, As a new user of the list (relatively speaking), I want to thank Renee Lee for a strong defense. At the risk of being blasted by a strong broadsides, I was under the impression that the reason this list was set-up was so that information could be exchanged and, if necessary, help obtained for problems encountered in the running of Fedora. Now if I am incorrect, could someone do two things, one, tell me where such a list exists and two, someone should be more clear on what is meant by these two statements on the fedora.redhat.com site: "Discuss this release on fedora-list." and "Join the fedora-list mailing list or chat with other participants on IRC." It has been my experience on the web, that when there is a discussion list available for a topic, then that list is for the exchange of ideas, tips, and discussion about ways to improve the product and get solutions to problems. I made the same assumption here. Generally speaking, I have found it to be the case here as well, but now it appears I may have been mistaken. If this is the case, I do humbly apologize. I would, however, like to point out that there are on most keyboards a key called delete. The purpose of this is to get rid of unwanted things. It is used by highlighting the thing and pressing the key. For the information of Mr. Marius and Mister Robert P. J. Day, it is very hard to do a google search and /or consult the (NON EXISTENT) manual when you don't know what question to ask or anything but the symptom you are seeing. Yes, DAGS/RTFM is always the first choice we use, then we come here for help. Have a pleasant day. Best Regards, Beej