up2date is still being quite unusable in some situations. Obviously it is not able to cope with hight trafic and/or a slow response time. - the mirror selection feature is a progress, compared to FC1, but it is still quite dumb in selecting mirrors. It doesn't use one in vicinity. especially useless for non US users - the progress dialog "testing package set / solving RPM dependencies" lacks of any user feedback if there is some problem with the connection. It seems to hang forever. Fortunately we have yum. up2date should become deprecated. Peter