You have all been writing furiously: In my opinion the solution is very simple, first analyse the problem, I believe it is newbies in particular. They subscribe to mailing list and the first thing they do is post a whole lot of "How do I's" If the mailing list sent the newbie a welcome note that gave guidance to the newbie we would not have half this problem. I believe that if the welcome note included various short guides, like Netiquette and a guide to google and how to search the archives, A big bold "Have you tried the following before you post your question?" This is a simple thing and could be setup in an hour. And could minimise the amount of small stuff and already covered topics mailed to the list. This is my 2c > -- > | --- --- > | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook <o> <o> > | J(tWdy)P ^ > | <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>> /---\ "bla bla bla..." > | \___/ "...and bla..." > > At least I know my mouth is running, I just can't find the off button! -- Chadley - Linux Rocks Welcome to my world. ****************************************************************** This mail is free for distribution. You are free to - delete it - resend it - use it in anyway that makes you happy. I am not responsible for it or its content due to ignorance. Enjoy the adventures of Linux *******************************************************************